Margaret Mitchell was working at Microsoft when Microsoft was working on Tay. And have been thinking about it ever since.ĭr. I do a lot of machine learning AI content, game-dev content on YouTube.īen: Margaret, Ryan, and Jabril, who goes by Jabrils online, all remember the Tay debacle. I am a law professor at the University of Washington, where I also hold appointments also in information science and computer science. My background is in computer science, machine learning, natural language processing, linguistics, some cognitive science. As we are about to show you, with the help of three people we did get to talk with us. Quincy: And then again, sometimes, it’s obvious. It’s hard to tell sometimes with digital communication. Maybe they were just, you know, pressed for time. They wrote me an email that said, “Good luck with your podcast.”īen: Rude! Maybe, Maybe not rude. Some of them, like the Algorithmic Justice League, whose mission is to illuminate the social implications and harms of artificial intelligence, just didn’t seem to have the time to talk about Tay. And you know it was kind of hard locking people down, it seemed to mainly be a timing thing, it's strange. I’m still not sure, Quincy, whether to call Tay and it or a she um but either way, you searched high and low for some people to help us talk about Tay. And perhaps everything that happened after it died, she died. And as large corporate experiments in chatbots go, Tay lived perhaps more briefly and infamously than most.īen: And yet, Tay is really only infamous in certain tech-y circles? Because of the brevity of her life. Quincy: And a terrorist attack in Brussels or something like thatīen: Well the first of those things ends up becoming kind of relevant here. Quincy: Not really, I think at the time it came out I was a production intern at NPR and off of the top of my head I think we were dealing with things like the Trump rally in Chicago at the time, some type of presidential primary. Today, the cautionary tale of a chatbot designed to be friendly and fun and when released into the American online landscape became far from it.īen: And how that story can and should be a reminder of what we build, how we build it, and who’s to blame when it gets ugly.īen: Quincy, did you know about Tay before we started talking about Tay? Quincy Walters: I’m Quincy Walters, and you’re listening to Endless Thread.īen: We’re coming to you from Boston’s NPR station WBUR and we’re bringing you the latest episode of our bot series: Good bot… Margaret Mitchell: I believe that it, at least in Pacific Time, it sort of happened overnight.īen Brock Johnson: I’m Ben Brock Johnson. Jabril: It was a really interesting project when it first came out.ĭr. And the harm that Tay did was not anticipated by the creators. Ryan Calo: Tay is like a socio-technical system, a combination of code, but also interaction with people and groups. It's just an algorithm that's just following instructions, that's all. When I look at stuff like this, I never blame the AI. Jabril Ashe: So, for me as a Black developer. music, sound effects, tone) are harder to translate to text. The transcript has been edited from our original script for clarity. This content was originally created for audio. Everyone who makes a monthly donation will get access to exclusive bonus content. If you want that too, we would deeply appreciate your contribution to our work in any amount. We love making Endless Thread, and we want to be able to keep making it far into the future. Show producers: Amory Siverton, Grace Tatter, Dean Russell and Nora Saks
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